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A Complete Guide to Choosing and Categorizing Jubensha (for shop owners, enthusiasts, and even casual players)

Martial Arts Reddit - 7 hours 17 min ago

Alright, I tried making a table to break down all of the different categorizations of jubensha (剧本杀), but reddit didn't like the size of it. So I'll break it into multiple parts.

First, the main categories of jubensha: Format: 盒装本 (boxed) 城限本 (limited) 独家本 (exclusive) The Four Main Genres: 恐怖本 (horror) 机制本 (mechanical) 情感本 (emotional) 硬核本 (hardcore) Logic: 本格 (grounded) 变格 (fantastical) Agency: 封闭本 (closed) 开放本 (open) 半开放本 (semi-open) Difficulty: 新手 (novice) 进阶 (advanced) 烧脑 (brain-burning)

"Format" is how and where you might expect the jubensha. "Boxed" means it comes in a box like any other board game, and you may or may not be able to purchase it for your own home collection. "Limited" and "Exclusive" mean that either that jubensha or that edition of that jubensha is available either only in a selection of shops or in that one shop in particular. "Limited" jubensha can sometimes be purchased directly from publishers if you own a shop, but "exclusive" jubensha are generally direct collaborations between the shop and the publisher or even in-house creations by the shop itself.

"The Four Main Genres" are generally going to be what you see first as the type of jubensha. There are other genres and types though, and we'll get to those in a bit.

"Logic" is what it sounds like. Will you need to understand time travel, a magic system, crypto-zoology, the supernatural, etc. to be able to solve this jubensha? If so, it's "fantastical". If not, it's "grounded".

"Agency" describes how much the story of the jubensha cam change. "closed" means that no matter what the players do, they are going to follow a specific storyline, usually with a specific outcome. "Open" means that a lot of things can change over the course of the game or even before, up to and sometimes including who exactly dies or is the culprit.

"Difficulty" isn't just describing how hard it will be on your first run through. I've found that in various forums people tend to use a scale of how many games a person has played to determine whether or not they can even take on certain difficulties. "Novice" is 0 games, "advanced" is 10-20 games, and "brain-burning" is 50 games or more.

Second, the different styles of jubensha:

Think of these styles like genres in a video game. A given jubensha might have elements of multiple or just one, but they generally determine what you can expect from a jubensha, especially mechanically.

Style: Description: 阵营本 (camp) focused on splitting into teams 机制本 (mechanical) focused on more game-like mechanics 沉浸本 (immersion) (often mixed with 情感本) focused on immersive roleplay (props, costumes, mood, etc.) 情感本 (emotional) focused on conjuring strong emotions and drama 还原本 (restoration) focused on restoring the whole timeline (instead of just finding the culprit) CP本 (couples) focused on romance or pairing players off 硬核本 (hardcore) focused on strong reasoning

You might notice that a few of these styles also appear as several of the Four Main Genres. That's because these styles generally influence the feel of the jubensha more strongly than the other styles and are typically used as primary styles.

A list of different settings and themes

The following is simply a list of more (but not all) tags that you might find describing different kinds of jubensha. Of note is the "horror" theme, which is considered one of the Four Main Genres. Also note that a given nationality ("European", "Japanese", etc.) doesn't denote the country of origin, but rather where the jubensha takes place.

恐怖 (horror), 欢乐 (joy), 玄幻 (fantasy), 校园 (school), 武侠 (martial arts), 欧式 (European), 民国 (Chinese), 现代 (modern), 古风 (ancient), 日式 (Japanese), 科幻 (Sci-Fi)

Try not to mix 玄幻 (fantasy) with 变格 (fantastical). "Fantasy" denotes the use of fantasy creatures, settings, etc. within the jubensha, whereas "fantastical" denotes that the players will have to work with evidence and logic outside the typical realm of possibility. They are not mutually inclusive (you can have dragons in your jubensha, but if the players only need to know if the killer used a knife or a hammer in the killing, then the logic of the jubensha might be more "grounded").

On player count

When choosing a jubensha to play, one of the most important things for you to look for is exactly how many players are needed, and what sex or gender the characters that the players would play are. Keep in mind that not all characters have a required gender or sex, and even then not all characters with a required gender or sex necessarily have to be played by a matching player. This does change on a jubensha to jubensha basis though, and isn't always prominently advertised, so it's worth asking your Host (or would-be Host) if you have questions. Since player count is a necessity, it's generally displayed prominently on the box or in the description, using the characters 人 (people(usually the total)), 男 (men), and 女 (women). Sometimes you'll just see a number followed by 人可玩 (literally "people can play") which usually means gender and sex are ambiguous or don't matter.

Hopefully this is all of the necessary info needed to pick the right jubensha for you and your group or shop. If there's anything I missed, let me know in the comments.

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I'm 24 yo with crap stamina, and I'm trying to get ready for bootcamp in a year or so.

Martial Arts Reddit - 7 hours 25 min ago

This is probably gonna come across silly. but I want to hear what you think. But first things first, I've been studying the Marine Corps and the rest of the military for years and I fucking love it. Unfortunately, due to many family reasons and the fact that I failed out of school. I couldn't go in after high school. Can any of you give me some tips and advice? I'm trying to get in shape to get into bootcamp in at the most, a year and a half.

I can do cardio workouts, pushups, squats, that kind of thing no problem, but cant run or sprint for long distances, its pathetic as shit really lol. A quarter of a mile and I'm winded. But I am improving, I am pretty strong, and people tell me I'm the toughest person they know. I have a novice skill for martial arts, (Karate, Muy Thai, but I'm good at HEMA), and I know an okay bit of kickboxing and wrestling. I can use rifles and pistols okay but need work to get more dead on with my precision.

I flunked high school and didn't know math for shit up until I just taught myself arithmetic and algebra 1 in the past 3 days. The rest comes easy. And I feel like my GED is coming pretty damn soon, as long as they didnt change the way of getting it. But how do I get myself to be running at least 3 to 7 miles comfortably without stopping? How do I introduce myself to having that endurance. Within the next year and a half? Because running and stamina is really my biggest problem. Is 26 or 27 a bad age to wait to? Does age really affect how they will look at you regarding MOS?

I want Infantry and don't want to change my mind there btw.

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Moving to tromsö norway from sweden, any good martial art places?

Martial Arts Reddit - 7 hours 26 min ago

I’m 17yo and my mom got a job offer in tromso and we will be moving in juli. I currently live in sweden and I have my whole life. Does anyone know any good martial arts places there? I’ve done taekwondo for 7 years and now muaythai for almost 5 years and I’d like to continue training while I’m in Norway.

And is there a good nightlife there? How are norweagan schools etc.

I would really like to know thanks!

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Muay Thai recommendations

Martial Arts Reddit - 7 hours 37 min ago

Hey there redditors,

I'm looking for some good muay thai training schools. The closer to Fort Lauderdale the better.

Ive tried Athlas, and they are quite expensive. I've also tried John Wai's Martial Arts. Super cool, but rather crowded.

Any other recommendations?

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Before the Cold War was Savate the prime unarmed system taught in the US military? Well at least for kicks moves? If so, why US armed forces abandon any Savate influence except for the Marine Corp?

Martial Arts Reddit - 10 hours 4 min ago

I skimmed through some old United States Marine Corp manuals around World War 1 and noticed a lot of the kicks appear to be moves from Savate and the same with a video I saw about the training for the OSS on Youtube (which was the predecessor to the CIA and the premier espionage agency during WWII from America). Just for a quick comparison I skimmed some Army and USMC FMs (what they call manuals for soldiers in the US military) and I don't see any Savate specific movies beyond using the toecap and heels for generic kicks in modern army stuff (though I have spotted some really Savate specific moves in the recent marine stuff like the coup de bas).

So I ask before the Cold War was Savate the biggest influence to the American military for hand to hand combat? Well at least for kicks and other leg strikes? If I want to give a specific detail for context almost all the techniques I seen across fight manuals from the American Civil War all the way to the first VE day focus primarily on boxing mixed with wrestling and common sense moves like stepping one someone's foo during grappling. So even in the old stuff I come across, Savate still isn't used much. What I do notice is that when more advanced legstrikes that shown beyond kneeing someone in the groin and Spartan kicks, is stuff like chasse lateral, coup de bas, fouette, and other Savate basics are taught but modified for the general soldier who aren't flexible and fore more practical realities (example the USMC manual shows foutte focused on the calf).

So I'm wondering can anyone give their input on this? Was Savate a major influence on the American military?

Afterall its quite famous that Sherlock Homes' style Bartitsu was famously taken from Savate and contemporary British military systems such as Defendu heavily used a number of specific Savate moves. Especially the version taught to commandos, spies, and other elite agents. So I'd assume its the same for the American military?

As a bonus question why did the American military practically completely abandoned any Savate influence in systems after the Korean War beyond the common sense "use the heels and steel toes of the boots to break bones" maybe perhaps except for the USMC? I can't find anything in army combatives outisde of striking with heels and toecap in army combatives that looks Savate specific but I have seen the coup de bas in demonstrations on Youtube for higher levels of MCMAP and at least one instance of a reverse crescent kick (forgot the French word for the Savate specific equivalent). And even strategies that seem more associated with Savate such as throwing straight punches than sweeping someone with with a similar looking but different move to coup de bas but done from behind. So why did the Corps decide to leave some of the most pragmatic Savate moves in MCMAP unlike America's army who disposed all influence completely other than using specific parts of military boots to increase the destructiveness of the more MT and Japanese influenced kicks in modern combatives?

What makes me even more perplexed is that spies, secret agents, and other field agents in the American government who aren't military-based actually do learn Savate moves.Granted its indirectly from other systems like Krav Maga, Sambo, and Defendu and other Western military martial arts putting their influence into the stuff the CIA and other civilian agencies but the simple fact you can find modified variations of the fouette within them really makes me wonder why the US military except the Marine Corps completely abandoned any Savate fundamental 100% despite army experts like Matt Larsen supposedly going out to study different styles to develop the Modern Army Combatives? Why did the Marine Corp not follow this trend at least enough that I can still see stuff from WWII and even World War 1 era manuals in modern MCMAP that looked Savate specific?

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Before the Cold War was Savate the prime unarmed system taught in the US military? Well at least for kicks moves? If so, why US armed forces abandon any Savate influence except for the Marine Corp?

Martial Arts Reddit - 10 hours 5 min ago

I skimmed through some old United States Marine Corp manuals around World War 1 and noticed a lot of the kicks appear to be moves from Savate and the same with a video I saw about the training for the OSS on Youtube (which was the predecessor to the CIA and the premier espionage agency during WWII from America). Just for a quick comparison I skimmed some Army and USMC FMs (what they call manuals for soldiers in the US military) and I don't see any Savate specific movies beyond using the toecap and heels for generic kicks in modern army stuff (though I have spotted some really Savate specific moves in the recent marine stuff like the coup de bas).

So I ask before the Cold War was Savate the biggest influence to the American military for hand to hand combat? Well at least for kicks and other leg strikes? If I want to give a specific detail for context almost all the techniques I seen across fight manuals from the American Civil War all the way to the first VE day focus primarily on boxing mixed with wrestling and common sense moves like stepping one someone's foo during grappling. So even in the old stuff I come across, Savate still isn't used much. What I do notice is that when more advanced legstrikes that shown beyond kneeing someone in the groin and Spartan kicks, is stuff like chasse lateral, coup de bas, fouette, and other Savate basics are taught but modified for the general soldier who aren't flexible and fore more practical realities (example the USMC manual shows foutte focused on the calf).

So I'm wondering can anyone give their input on this? Was Savate a major influence on the American military?

Afterall its quite famous that Sherlock Homes' style Bartitsu was famously taken from Savate and contemporary British military systems such as Defendu heavily used a number of specific Savate moves. Especially the version taught to commandos, spies, and other elite agents. So I'd assume its the same for the American military?

As a bonus question why did the American military practically completely abandoned any Savate influence in systems after the Korean War beyond the common sense "use the heels and steel toes of the boots to break bones" maybe perhaps except for the USMC? I can't find anything in army combatives outisde of striking with heels and toecap in army combatives that looks Savate specific but I have seen the coup de bas in demonstrations on Youtube for higher levels of MCMAP and at least one instance of a reverse crescent kick (forgot the French word for the Savate specific equivalent). And even strategies that seem more associated with Savate such as throwing straight punches than sweeping someone with with a similar looking but different move to coup de bas but done from behind. So why did the Corps decide to leave some of the most pragmatic Savate moves in MCMAP unlike America's army who disposed all influence completely other than using specific parts of military boots to increase the destructiveness of the more MT and Japanese influenced kicks in modern combatives?

What makes me even more perplexed is that spies, secret agents, and other field agents in the American government who aren't military-based actually do learn Savate moves.Granted its indirectly from other systems like Krav Maga, Sambo, and Defendu and other Western military martial arts putting their influence into the stuff the CIA and other civilian agencies but the simple fact you can find modified variations of the fouette within them really makes me wonder why the US military except the Marine Corps completely abandoned any Savate fundamental 100% despite army experts like Matt Larsen supposedly going out to study different styles to develop the Modern Army Combatives? Why did the Marine Corp not follow this trend at least enough that I can still see stuff from WWII and even World War 1 era manuals in modern MCMAP that looked Savate specific?

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Before the Cold War was Savate the prime unarmed system taught in the US military? Well at least for kicks moves? If so, why US armed forces abandon any Savate influence except for the Marine Corp?

Martial Arts Reddit - 10 hours 13 min ago

I skimmed through some old United States Marine Corp manuals around World War 1 and noticed a lot of the kicks appear to be moves from Savate and the same with a video I saw about the training for the OSS on Youtube (which was the predecessor to the CIA and the premier espionage agency during WWII from America). Just for a quick comparison I skimmed some Army and USMC FMs (what they call manuals for soldiers in the US military) and I don't see any Savate specific movies beyond using the toecap and heels for generic kicks in modern army stuff (though I have spotted some really Savate specific moves in the recent marine stuff like the coup de bas).

So I ask before the Cold War was Savate the biggest influence to the American military for hand to hand combat? Well at least for kicks and other leg strikes? If I want to give a specific detail for context almost all the techniques I seen across fight manuals from the American Civil War all the way to the first VE day focus primarily on boxing mixed with wrestling and common sense moves like stepping one someone's foo during grappling. So even in the old stuff I come across, Savate still isn't used much. What I do notice is that when more advanced legstrikes that shown beyond kneeing someone in the groin and Spartan kicks, is stuff like chasse lateral, coup de bas, fouette, and other Savate basics are taught but modified for the general soldier who aren't flexible and fore more practical realities (example the USMC manual shows foutte focused on the calf).

So I'm wondering can anyone give their input on this? Was Savate a major influence on the American military?

Afterall its quite famous that Sherlock Homes' style Bartitsu was famously taken from Savate and contemporary British military systems such as Defendu heavily used a number of specific Savate moves. Especially the version taught to commandos, spies, and other elite agents. So I'd assume its the same for the American military?

As a bonus question why did the American military practically completely abandoned any Savate influence in systems after the Korean War beyond the common sense "use the heels and steel toes of the boots to break bones" maybe perhaps except for the USMC? I can't find anything in army combatives outisde of striking with heels and toecap in army combatives that looks Savate specific but I have seen the coup de bas in demonstrations on Youtube for higher levels of MCMAP and at least one instance of a reverse crescent kick (forgot the French word for the Savate specific equivalent). And even strategies that seem more associated with Savate such as throwing straight punches than sweeping someone with with a similar looking but different move to coup de bas but done from behind. So why did the Corps decide to leave some of the most pragmatic Savate moves in MCMAP unlike America's army who disposed all influence completely other than using specific parts of military boots to increase the destructiveness of the more MT and Japanese influenced kicks in modern combatives?

What makes me even more perplexed is that spies, secret agents, and other field agents in the American government who aren't military-based actually do learn Savate moves.Granted its indirectly from other systems like Krav Maga, Sambo, and Defendu and other Western military martial arts putting their influence into the stuff the CIA and other civilian agencies but the simple fact you can find modified variations of the fouette within them really makes me wonder why the US military except the Marine Corps completely abandoned any Savate fundamental 100% despite army experts like Matt Larsen supposedly going out to study different styles to develop the Modern Army Combatives? Why did the Marine Corp not follow this trend at least enough that I can still see stuff from WWII and even World War 1 era manuals in modern MCMAP that looked Savate specific?

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Before the Cold War was Savate the primary unarmed system taught in the US military? Well at least for kicks move sets? If so, why did the American armed forces abandon any Savate influence except for the Marine Corps?

Martial Arts Reddit - 10 hours 14 min ago

I skimmed through some old United States Marine Corp manuals around World War 1 and noticed a lot of the kicks appear to be moves from Savate and the same with a video I saw about the training for the OSS on Youtube (which was the predecessor to the CIA and the premier espionage agency during WWII from America). Just for a quick comparison I skimmed some Army and USMC FMs (what they call manuals for soldiers in the US military) and I don't see any Savate specific movies beyond using the toecap and heels for generic kicks in modern army stuff (though I have spotted some really Savate specific moves in the recent marine stuff like the coup de bas).

So I ask before the Cold War was Savate the biggest influence to the American military for hand to hand combat? Well at least for kicks and other leg strikes? If I want to give a specific detail for context almost all the techniques I seen across fight manuals from the American Civil War all the way to the first VE day focus primarily on boxing mixed with wrestling and common sense moves like stepping one someone's foo during grappling. So even in the old stuff I come across, Savate still isn't used much. What I do notice is that when more advanced legstrikes that shown beyond kneeing someone in the groin and Spartan kicks, is stuff like chasse lateral, coup de bas, fouette, and other Savate basics are taught but modified for the general soldier who aren't flexible and fore more practical realities (example the USMC manual shows foutte focused on the calf).

So I'm wondering can anyone give their input on this? Was Savate a major influence on the American military?

Afterall its quite famous that Sherlock Homes' style Bartitsu was famously taken from Savate and contemporary British military systems such as Defendu heavily used a number of specific Savate moves. Especially the version taught to commandos, spies, and other elite agents. So I'd assume its the same for the American military?

As a bonus question why did the American military practically completely abandoned any Savate influence in systems after the Korean War beyond the common sense "use the heels and steel toes of the boots to break bones" maybe perhaps except for the USMC? I can't find anything in army combatives outisde of striking with heels and toecap in army combatives that looks Savate specific but I have seen the coup de bas in demonstrations on Youtube for higher levels of MCMAP and at least one instance of a reverse crescent kick (forgot the French word for the Savate specific equivalent). And even strategies that seem more associated with Savate such as throwing straight punches than sweeping someone with with a similar looking but different move to coup de bas but done from behind. So why did the Corps decide to leave some of the most pragmatic Savate moves in MCMAP unlike America's army who disposed all influence completely other than using specific parts of military boots to increase the destructiveness of the more MT and Japanese influenced kicks in modern combatives?

What makes me even more perplexed is that spies, secret agents, and other field agents in the American government who aren't military-based actually do learn Savate moves.Granted its indirectly from other systems like Krav Maga, Sambo, and Defendu and other Western military martial arts putting their influence into the stuff the CIA and other civilian agencies but the simple fact you can find modified variations of the fouette within them really makes me wonder why the US military except the Marine Corps completely abandoned any Savate fundamental 100% despite army experts like Matt Larsen supposedly going out to study different styles to develop the Modern Army Combatives? Why did the Marine Corp not follow this trend at least enough that I can still see stuff from WWII and even World War 1 era manuals in modern MCMAP that looked Savate specific?

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Before the Cold War was Savate the primary unarmed system taught in the US military? Well at least for kicks move sets? If so, why did the American armed forces abandon any Savate influence except for the Marine Corps?

Martial Arts Reddit - 10 hours 15 min ago

I skimmed through some old United States Marine Corp manuals around World War 1 and noticed a lot of the kicks appear to be moves from Savate and the same with a video I saw about the training for the OSS on Youtube (which was the predecessor to the CIA and the premier espionage agency during WWII from America). Just for a quick comparison I skimmed some Army and USMC FMs (what they call manuals for soldiers in the US military) and I don't see any Savate specific movies beyond using the toecap and heels for generic kicks in modern army stuff (though I have spotted some really Savate specific moves in the recent marine stuff like the coup de bas).

So I ask before the Cold War was Savate the biggest influence to the American military for hand to hand combat? Well at least for kicks and other leg strikes? If I want to give a specific detail for context almost all the techniques I seen across fight manuals from the American Civil War all the way to the first VE day focus primarily on boxing mixed with wrestling and common sense moves like stepping one someone's foo during grappling. So even in the old stuff I come across, Savate still isn't used much. What I do notice is that when more advanced legstrikes that shown beyond kneeing someone in the groin and Spartan kicks, is stuff like chasse lateral, coup de bas, fouette, and other Savate basics are taught but modified for the general soldier who aren't flexible and fore more practical realities (example the USMC manual shows foutte focused on the calf).

So I'm wondering can anyone give their input on this? Was Savate a major influence on the American military?

Afterall its quite famous that Sherlock Homes' style Bartitsu was famously taken from Savate and contemporary British military systems such as Defendu heavily used a number of specific Savate moves. Especially the version taught to commandos, spies, and other elite agents. So I'd assume its the same for the American military?

As a bonus question why did the American military practically completely abandoned any Savate influence in systems after the Korean War beyond the common sense "use the heels and steel toes of the boots to break bones" maybe perhaps except for the USMC? I can't find anything in army combatives outisde of striking with heels and toecap in army combatives that looks Savate specific but I have seen the coup de bas in demonstrations on Youtube for higher levels of MCMAP and at least one instance of a reverse crescent kick (forgot the French word for the Savate specific equivalent). And even strategies that seem more associated with Savate such as throwing straight punches than sweeping someone with with a similar looking but different move to coup de bas but done from behind. So why did the Corps decide to leave some of the most pragmatic Savate moves in MCMAP unlike America's army who disposed all influence completely other than using specific parts of military boots to increase the destructiveness of the more MT and Japanese influenced kicks in modern combatives?

What makes me even more perplexed is that spies, secret agents, and other field agents in the American government who aren't military-based actually do learn Savate moves.Granted its indirectly from other systems like Krav Maga, Sambo, and Defendu and other Western military martial arts putting their influence into the stuff the CIA and other civilian agencies but the simple fact you can find modified variations of the fouette within them really makes me wonder why the US military except the Marine Corps completely abandoned any Savate fundamental 100% despite army experts like Matt Larsen supposedly going out to study different styles to develop the Modern Army Combatives? Why did the Marine Corp not follow this trend at least enough that I can still see stuff from WWII and even World War 1 era manuals in modern MCMAP that looked Savate specific?

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Before the Cold War was Savate the primary unarmed system taught in the US military? Well at least for kicks move sets? If so, why did the American armed forces abandon any Savate influence except for the Marine Corps?

Martial Arts Reddit - 10 hours 15 min ago

I skimmed through some old United States Marine Corp manuals around World War 1 and noticed a lot of the kicks appear to be moves from Savate and the same with a video I saw about the training for the OSS on Youtube (which was the predecessor to the CIA and the premier espionage agency during WWII from America). Just for a quick comparison I skimmed some Army and USMC FMs (what they call manuals for soldiers in the US military) and I don't see any Savate specific movies beyond using the toecap and heels for generic kicks in modern army stuff (though I have spotted some really Savate specific moves in the recent marine stuff like the coup de bas).

So I ask before the Cold War was Savate the biggest influence to the American military for hand to hand combat? Well at least for kicks and other leg strikes? If I want to give a specific detail for context almost all the techniques I seen across fight manuals from the American Civil War all the way to the first VE day focus primarily on boxing mixed with wrestling and common sense moves like stepping one someone's foo during grappling. So even in the old stuff I come across, Savate still isn't used much. What I do notice is that when more advanced legstrikes that shown beyond kneeing someone in the groin and Spartan kicks, is stuff like chasse lateral, coup de bas, fouette, and other Savate basics are taught but modified for the general soldier who aren't flexible and fore more practical realities (example the USMC manual shows foutte focused on the calf).

So I'm wondering can anyone give their input on this? Was Savate a major influence on the American military?

Afterall its quite famous that Sherlock Homes' style Bartitsu was famously taken from Savate and contemporary British military systems such as Defendu heavily used a number of specific Savate moves. Especially the version taught to commandos, spies, and other elite agents. So I'd assume its the same for the American military?

As a bonus question why did the American military practically completely abandoned any Savate influence in systems after the Korean War beyond the common sense "use the heels and steel toes of the boots to break bones" maybe perhaps except for the USMC? I can't find anything in army combatives outisde of striking with heels and toecap in army combatives that looks Savate specific but I have seen the coup de bas in demonstrations on Youtube for higher levels of MCMAP and at least one instance of a reverse crescent kick (forgot the French word for the Savate specific equivalent). And even strategies that seem more associated with Savate such as throwing straight punches than sweeping someone with with a similar looking but different move to coup de bas but done from behind. So why did the Corps decide to leave some of the most pragmatic Savate moves in MCMAP unlike America's army who disposed all influence completely other than using specific parts of military boots to increase the destructiveness of the more MT and Japanese influenced kicks in modern combatives?

What makes me even more perplexed is that spies, secret agents, and other field agents in the American government who aren't military-based actually do learn Savate moves.Granted its indirectly from other systems like Krav Maga, Sambo, and Defendu and other Western military martial arts putting their influence into the stuff the CIA and other civilian agencies but the simple fact you can find modified variations of the fouette within them really makes me wonder why the US military except the Marine Corps completely abandoned any Savate fundamental 100% despite army experts like Matt Larsen supposedly going out to study different styles to develop the Modern Army Combatives? Why did the Marine Corp not follow this trend at least enough that I can still see stuff from WWII and even World War 1 era manuals in modern MCMAP that looked Savate specific?

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Before the Cold War was Savate the primary unarmed system taught in the US military? Well at least for kicks move sets? If so, why did the American armed forces abandon any Savate influence except for the Marine Corps?

Martial Arts Reddit - 10 hours 15 min ago

I skimmed through some old United States Marine Corp manuals around World War 1 and noticed a lot of the kicks appear to be moves from Savate and the same with a video I saw about the training for the OSS on Youtube (which was the predecessor to the CIA and the premier espionage agency during WWII from America). Just for a quick comparison I skimmed some Army and USMC FMs (what they call manuals for soldiers in the US military) and I don't see any Savate specific movies beyond using the toecap and heels for generic kicks in modern army stuff (though I have spotted some really Savate specific moves in the recent marine stuff like the coup de bas).

So I ask before the Cold War was Savate the biggest influence to the American military for hand to hand combat? Well at least for kicks and other leg strikes? If I want to give a specific detail for context almost all the techniques I seen across fight manuals from the American Civil War all the way to the first VE day focus primarily on boxing mixed with wrestling and common sense moves like stepping one someone's foo during grappling. So even in the old stuff I come across, Savate still isn't used much. What I do notice is that when more advanced legstrikes that shown beyond kneeing someone in the groin and Spartan kicks, is stuff like chasse lateral, coup de bas, fouette, and other Savate basics are taught but modified for the general soldier who aren't flexible and fore more practical realities (example the USMC manual shows foutte focused on the calf).

So I'm wondering can anyone give their input on this? Was Savate a major influence on the American military?

Afterall its quite famous that Sherlock Homes' style Bartitsu was famously taken from Savate and contemporary British military systems such as Defendu heavily used a number of specific Savate moves. Especially the version taught to commandos, spies, and other elite agents. So I'd assume its the same for the American military?

As a bonus question why did the American military practically completely abandoned any Savate influence in systems after the Korean War beyond the common sense "use the heels and steel toes of the boots to break bones" maybe perhaps except for the USMC? I can't find anything in army combatives outisde of striking with heels and toecap in army combatives that looks Savate specific but I have seen the coup de bas in demonstrations on Youtube for higher levels of MCMAP and at least one instance of a reverse crescent kick (forgot the French word for the Savate specific equivalent). And even strategies that seem more associated with Savate such as throwing straight punches than sweeping someone with with a similar looking but different move to coup de bas but done from behind. So why did the Corps decide to leave some of the most pragmatic Savate moves in MCMAP unlike America's army who disposed all influence completely other than using specific parts of military boots to increase the destructiveness of the more MT and Japanese influenced kicks in modern combatives?

What makes me even more perplexed is that spies, secret agents, and other field agents in the American government who aren't military-based actually do learn Savate moves.Granted its indirectly from other systems like Krav Maga, Sambo, and Defendu and other Western military martial arts putting their influence into the stuff the CIA and other civilian agencies but the simple fact you can find modified variations of the fouette within them really makes me wonder why the US military except the Marine Corps completely abandoned any Savate fundamental 100% despite army experts like Matt Larsen supposedly going out to study different styles to develop the Modern Army Combatives? Why did the Marine Corp not follow this trend at least enough that I can still see stuff from WWII and even World War 1 era manuals in modern MCMAP that looked Savate specific?

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Before the Cold War was Savate the prime unarmed system taught in the US military? Well at least for kicks moves? If so, why US armed forces abandon any Savate influence except for the Marine Corp?

Martial Arts Reddit - 10 hours 15 min ago

I skimmed through some old United States Marine Corp manuals around World War 1 and noticed a lot of the kicks appear to be moves from Savate and the same with a video I saw about the training for the OSS on Youtube (which was the predecessor to the CIA and the premier espionage agency during WWII from America). Just for a quick comparison I skimmed some Army and USMC FMs (what they call manuals for soldiers in the US military) and I don't see any Savate specific movies beyond using the toecap and heels for generic kicks in modern army stuff (though I have spotted some really Savate specific moves in the recent marine stuff like the coup de bas).

So I ask before the Cold War was Savate the biggest influence to the American military for hand to hand combat? Well at least for kicks and other leg strikes? If I want to give a specific detail for context almost all the techniques I seen across fight manuals from the American Civil War all the way to the first VE day focus primarily on boxing mixed with wrestling and common sense moves like stepping one someone's foo during grappling. So even in the old stuff I come across, Savate still isn't used much. What I do notice is that when more advanced legstrikes that shown beyond kneeing someone in the groin and Spartan kicks, is stuff like chasse lateral, coup de bas, fouette, and other Savate basics are taught but modified for the general soldier who aren't flexible and fore more practical realities (example the USMC manual shows foutte focused on the calf).

So I'm wondering can anyone give their input on this? Was Savate a major influence on the American military?

Afterall its quite famous that Sherlock Homes' style Bartitsu was famously taken from Savate and contemporary British military systems such as Defendu heavily used a number of specific Savate moves. Especially the version taught to commandos, spies, and other elite agents. So I'd assume its the same for the American military?

As a bonus question why did the American military practically completely abandoned any Savate influence in systems after the Korean War beyond the common sense "use the heels and steel toes of the boots to break bones" maybe perhaps except for the USMC? I can't find anything in army combatives outisde of striking with heels and toecap in army combatives that looks Savate specific but I have seen the coup de bas in demonstrations on Youtube for higher levels of MCMAP and at least one instance of a reverse crescent kick (forgot the French word for the Savate specific equivalent). And even strategies that seem more associated with Savate such as throwing straight punches than sweeping someone with with a similar looking but different move to coup de bas but done from behind. So why did the Corps decide to leave some of the most pragmatic Savate moves in MCMAP unlike America's army who disposed all influence completely other than using specific parts of military boots to increase the destructiveness of the more MT and Japanese influenced kicks in modern combatives?

What makes me even more perplexed is that spies, secret agents, and other field agents in the American government who aren't military-based actually do learn Savate moves.Granted its indirectly from other systems like Krav Maga, Sambo, and Defendu and other Western military martial arts putting their influence into the stuff the CIA and other civilian agencies but the simple fact you can find modified variations of the fouette within them really makes me wonder why the US military except the Marine Corps completely abandoned any Savate fundamental 100% despite army experts like Matt Larsen supposedly going out to study different styles to develop the Modern Army Combatives? Why did the Marine Corp not follow this trend at least enough that I can still see stuff from WWII and even World War 1 era manuals in modern MCMAP that looked Savate specific?

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Before the Cold War was Savate the primary unarmed system taught in the US military? Well at least for kicks move sets? If so, why did the American armed forces abandon any Savate influence except for the Marine Corps?

Martial Arts Reddit - 10 hours 16 min ago

I skimmed through some old United States Marine Corp manuals around World War 1 and noticed a lot of the kicks appear to be moves from Savate and the same with a video I saw about the training for the OSS on Youtube (which was the predecessor to the CIA and the premier espionage agency during WWII from America). Just for a quick comparison I skimmed some Army and USMC FMs (what they call manuals for soldiers in the US military) and I don't see any Savate specific movies beyond using the toecap and heels for generic kicks in modern army stuff (though I have spotted some really Savate specific moves in the recent marine stuff like the coup de bas).

So I ask before the Cold War was Savate the biggest influence to the American military for hand to hand combat? Well at least for kicks and other leg strikes? If I want to give a specific detail for context almost all the techniques I seen across fight manuals from the American Civil War all the way to the first VE day focus primarily on boxing mixed with wrestling and common sense moves like stepping one someone's foo during grappling. So even in the old stuff I come across, Savate still isn't used much. What I do notice is that when more advanced legstrikes that shown beyond kneeing someone in the groin and Spartan kicks, is stuff like chasse lateral, coup de bas, fouette, and other Savate basics are taught but modified for the general soldier who aren't flexible and fore more practical realities (example the USMC manual shows foutte focused on the calf).

So I'm wondering can anyone give their input on this? Was Savate a major influence on the American military?

Afterall its quite famous that Sherlock Homes' style Bartitsu was famously taken from Savate and contemporary British military systems such as Defendu heavily used a number of specific Savate moves. Especially the version taught to commandos, spies, and other elite agents. So I'd assume its the same for the American military?

As a bonus question why did the American military practically completely abandoned any Savate influence in systems after the Korean War beyond the common sense "use the heels and steel toes of the boots to break bones" maybe perhaps except for the USMC? I can't find anything in army combatives outisde of striking with heels and toecap in army combatives that looks Savate specific but I have seen the coup de bas in demonstrations on Youtube for higher levels of MCMAP and at least one instance of a reverse crescent kick (forgot the French word for the Savate specific equivalent). And even strategies that seem more associated with Savate such as throwing straight punches than sweeping someone with with a similar looking but different move to coup de bas but done from behind. So why did the Corps decide to leave some of the most pragmatic Savate moves in MCMAP unlike America's army who disposed all influence completely other than using specific parts of military boots to increase the destructiveness of the more MT and Japanese influenced kicks in modern combatives?

What makes me even more perplexed is that spies, secret agents, and other field agents in the American government who aren't military-based actually do learn Savate moves.Granted its indirectly from other systems like Krav Maga, Sambo, and Defendu and other Western military martial arts putting their influence into the stuff the CIA and other civilian agencies but the simple fact you can find modified variations of the fouette within them really makes me wonder why the US military except the Marine Corps completely abandoned any Savate fundamental 100% despite army experts like Matt Larsen supposedly going out to study different styles to develop the Modern Army Combatives? Why did the Marine Corp not follow this trend at least enough that I can still see stuff from WWII and even World War 1 era manuals in modern MCMAP that looked Savate specific?

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Anyone else want them to remove the animation when picking up items?

Martial Arts Reddit - 10 hours 20 min ago

I feel like one of the only gripes I have with the game is that sometimes I’m trying to do martial arts and end up picking an item up by accident. Team Ninja removed the animation in Wo Long in one of the updates so I’m sure it’s possible to do in this game as well. I thought putting “auto-collect items” on would alleviate this problem, but nope you still do the pick up animation.

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Enrolling in ME course

Martial Arts Reddit - 10 hours 22 min ago

I'm a grade 12 STEM student in Makati campus and mag Mech Eng ako for college any tips amd tricks to survive guys?

ps: di ako magaling sa math bobo ako actually I'm cooked

also is there any nearby gym sa Intramuros campus since for athletes lang pala yung gym dun yung gym na pwede sana walk in lng and may martial arts gym din ba nearby?

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Dunnellon <b>Martial Arts</b> &amp; Fitness celebrates grand opening | Local News | chronicleonline.com

Martial Arts Google Alert - 10 hours 26 min ago
Located at 20751 Powell Road, this is the second martial arts school for Stefan Butin Bik and his wife, Audreianna. The Butin Biks have also had a ...
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27 [M4F] #Online #Turkey - Seeking a Kindred Spirit: Introverted, Yet Fun-loving

Martial Arts Reddit - 10 hours 26 min ago

Hello, I'm a 27-year-old man from Turkey seeking a meaningful, long-term relationship with a compatible partner. While I lean towards introversion initially, I tend to show more extroverted qualities once I'm comfortable with someone. I value my alone time but deeply desire a romantic connection to share new experiences and cherished memories. I consider myself humorous, kind, adventurous, and respectful, though I do have a touch of anxiety that can make meeting new people challenging at first. Please don't be put off by this; it tends to fade once we get to know each other better.

I'm passionate about staying active and fit. In my free time, I enjoy a variety of physical activities including working out, practicing martial arts, running, swimming, skipping rope, and hiking. I also adore animals, especially dogs—I have one of my own—and I share my home with a turtle as well.

Reading is another passion of mine; I delve into both fiction and non-fiction. Some of my favorite authors include Jack London (particularly "White Fang"), Sir Arthur Conan Doyle (for Sherlock Holmes), and Douglas Adams (creator of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy").

Anime and video games also hold a special place in my heart. Additionally, I have a thirst for knowledge and am currently learning Japanese as my third language.

Physically, I stand at 5'9" with blonde hair and blue eyes, and I have a muscular build thanks to my active hobbies, though I'm working towards shedding a few pounds.

As for preferences in a partner, I do care about visual attraction but I don't have a particular type. However, I prioritize health and prefer someone who doesn't smoke, do drugs, or is overweight. I occasionally drink, so if you enjoy drinking, that's fine. You don't need to share my hobbies or be introverted either; if you think we can click, don't hesitate to send me a message.

I'm in the GMT+3 time zone, but I'm open to connecting with someone who can manage a significant time difference. In the past, I've encountered challenges on Reddit due to large time gaps, but I'm hopeful we can make it work.

I would be very happy if you introduce yourself in your message and share a picture of yourself. I will reciprocate with mine.

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30 Wealthiest UFC Fighters of All Time, Ranked - MSN

Martial Arts Google Alert - 10 hours 26 min ago
Demetrious Johnson has been called the greatest mixed martial artists in the world by ESPN, MMA Weekly, and various UFC personnel. He comes in 30th on ...
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